Well crap

Apr. 1st, 2003 02:27 pm
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Looks like we all missed the national day of prayer and fasting, as it was apparently declared on March 17 http://www.ffrf.org/news/index.php?n=fasting.html.

Date: 2003-04-01 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tersa.livejournal.com
Uhm. According to that article, the *Senate's* declared national day of prayer and fasting was March 17th, but the date on the article itself said that the House resolution wasn't passed until March 27th.

Unless they're intending us to go back in time... :) Or perhaps they were just confirming the Senate's measure?

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Date: 2003-04-01 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
Uhm. According to that article, the *Senate's* declared national day of prayer and fasting was March 17th, but the date on the article itself said that the House resolution wasn't passed until March 27th.

Unless they're intending us to go back in time... :) Or perhaps they were just confirming the Senate's measure?


A retroactive day of prayer and fasting? *G*

Date: 2003-04-01 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murdoch.livejournal.com
Jesus can save you. And turn back time.

Date: 2003-04-01 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] centerfire.livejournal.com
Remember how the process works: a bill needs to pass both houses of Congress, and also be signed by the president, before it becomes law.

When the Senate and the House pass slightly different versions of the same bill, there's what's called a reconciliation conference, where lawmakers from both houses of Congress hammer out the dissimilarities. I haven't heard of one of those happening yet -- but one would have to, before the bill could be sent up to the White House for the president to sign.

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Date: 2003-04-01 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
Maybe I'm just being dim, but if you were going to set out to create such a bill to make the day all official, wouldn't you want to take that into consideration and thusly place the date in say April or May? I mean that way you'd factor in the time it would take for the bill to make its way through the entire process and onto the desk of the president, where he'd happily sign it. Am I missing the bigger purpose here, or is this along the same lines as the whole "Freedom Fries" thing?

Date: 2003-04-01 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] centerfire.livejournal.com
I suspect it's being done out of symbolism. Regardless of where you stand on the whole is-this-good-government question, there is a long and distinguished history of various domestic and international leaders asking for prayer and/or divine intercession when things hit a rough patch; I imagine this is in that same vein.

Like much of what Congress does, it's a waste of time.

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Date: 2003-04-01 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
I suspect it's being done out of symbolism. Regardless of where you stand on the whole is-this-good-government question, there is a long and distinguished history of various domestic and international leaders asking for prayer and/or divine intercession when things hit a rough patch; I imagine this is in that same vein.

Like much of what Congress does, it's a waste of time.


Well nice to know our tax dollars are being well spent. Wonder if I wrote to Mike Honda and just asked him what the logic was behind all this if I'd get something more than a canned response..hmm...

Date: 2003-04-01 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] centerfire.livejournal.com
Well nice to know our tax dollars are being well spent.

It's the government. :) Of course it's an inefficient waste of money and time. :)

Wonder if I wrote to Mike Honda and just asked him what the logic was behind all this if I'd get something more than a canned response..hmm...

I dunno. I've written a gaggle of letters to congresscritters over the years. The most honest one I ever got was from the late Joe Moakley, after the travesty that was the Communications Decency Act. In as many words, the response read, "This was asstastic legislation that I oppose, but it was packaged with a lot of other stuff that I support, and so I didn't have a lot of choice but to hold my nose and vote yea."

On the other hand, I get a lot of very gaseous responses back from the Gun Control Gals, Feinsten and Boxer, whenever I write them to protest their latest bit of foolishness.

So I think it's a crapshoot.

Date: 2003-04-01 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tersa.livejournal.com
I thought these were resolutions, not laws?

Date: 2003-04-01 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] centerfire.livejournal.com
Resolutions are just a lot of hot air anyway. Completely meaningless.

Date: 2003-04-01 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murdoch.livejournal.com
Isn't March 17th already a Day of Drunken Debauchery and the Eating of Corned Beef and Cabbage? Doesn't that not work well with Prayer and Fasting?

I feel slighted by this piece of anti-Irish legislation. Next thing you know, there will be Polish jokes again.

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Date: 2003-04-01 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
Isn't March 17th already a Day of Drunken Debauchery and the Eating of Corned Beef and Cabbage? Doesn't that not work well with Prayer and Fasting?

I feel slighted by this piece of anti-Irish legislation. Next thing you know, there will be Polish jokes again.


I'm just totally confused by this entire thing, but it does seem kinda unfair to take over St. Pat's day. I mean when else are we supposed to drink green beer? Though I suppose it wouldn't be considered unpatriotic to wear "Kiss me I'm Irish" buttons...

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