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[ebonlock]

Ok, I don't care if it's totally unrealistic, the return of Lee's physique has made me happier than anything else this season. OMG the abs, the ABS!!!! I'm sure Jamie was pretty happy to get out of the fat suit as well, but not nearly as happy as I was to see him out of it.

Loved Apollo back in CAG status and Starbuck and Tigh's continued downward spiral. When Adama gave them both an ultimatum I was happy to see Kara actually start to wake up a little, though sad to see Tigh continuing down. I just don't see how that character can survive his guilt, and for a second when he picked up the revolver I really thought he was going to take himself out. Poor Saul, he's going to be looking for a way to kill himself in the days to come, but preferably one that allows him to take out a few Cylons along the way.

I'm guessing Helo is going to stay on in Tigh's position and maybe Gaeta will be bumped up a bit (he's certainly trying to get back into everyone's good graces), but where is Dee? She seems to have completely disappeared.

It was a good, somewhat productive weekend. I never get quite as much done as I hope to, but I did a lot more than I'd really expected to so that's good. My one big crafting project is underway, finally. Got some books taken to BookBuyers and got a fair amount in cash and trade for them. Got several story segments posted and so far mostly rave reviews for Scale of Dragon, Tooth of Wolf. One reader even claims to be an "addict", and another thanked me for posting it in pieces so she'd remember to do things like feed her kids and cats. What better praise could a fanfic author hope for? Still one part in chapter 4 to post tonight and then on to chapter 5, which means I should really finish up the damn end notes. Between that and the final edits moonlightnrain just sent me I think tonight's going to be well spoken for. Hopefully I can get back to crafting tomorrow. Hopefully.

Comments

[ebonlock.livejournal.com]

And again I have to disagree. If you have Kara bond with the kid, sure, no problem, but just believing entirely that she's her mommy right off the bat? No way.

Let me try to give you an example of why this isn't working for me. Let's take a look at the same character only male, from the original series. Can you honestly tell me that a writer looking at the same character with the same past, the only difference being a Y chromosome would've written that character to have fallen for the 'You're the daddy' line in the same way? No, he would've been skeptical at the least, though probably had several cute scenes with said kid before the truth was revealed.

The difference is she's a woman and therefore they can fall back on ye olde "Maternal Instinct" nonsense. And dude, you're honestly going to tell me you bought into her holding Leoban's hand 'cause she was so upset about Kasey? WTF? If she'd been using it as a plot to get him to lower his guard, fine, sure that's totally Kara. But forgetting herself to that degree with absolutely no payoff from the writers? No, no, no, that just doesn't cut it with me.

Sloppy writing dealing with someone's appearance I can totally swallow, sloppy writing dealing with my favorite character's intellect and personality on a fundamental level? No way.

[moonlightnrain.livejournal.com]

I think that you're equating your disagreement with the direction they took the character in with sloppy writing. The fact is a lot of people (not just women) do have maternal and paternal instincts, a lot of people *do* grab someone's, anyone's hand when they are emotionally distraught. I can picture them going that way with the old Starbuck, honestly, with the same amount of skepticism they originally showed, and then having that skepticism set aside when the child was hurt, just as they did here.

Now if they took her down that path and then had her show absolutely no emotionality when she was confronted with Kacey in "Torn," I'd call that sloppy writing. But they have stayed consistent with this plotline (unlike with Apollo's weight), it's just not a choice for that character that *you* agree with.

[ebonlock.livejournal.com]

And here is where I've got to disagree again, if you can point to any prior character action or decision that would make this particular one consistent then I'll happily concede. But again we've seen Kara in stressful situations and she has always acted with intelligence, courage and profound pragmatism. She has never been a person who reaches out to clutch someone's hand, indeed her personal boundaries seem pretty strict with the exception of sex (which she seems to use as a recreational tool to help relieve stress for the most part). She's offered hugs to friends in celebration or reunion.

Again, if you can show me any evidence that this existed prior to these episodes I'll admit it's just me not liking the direction they're taking her in. But I don't think you're going to find anything that would point even vaguely in this direction. If the writers had given us a little more time for developing Kara's changing behavior, or some evidence that her captivity was having more psychological effects than it seemed to, or even hinted that something during the missing year had caused this about face...then sure, I can start to swallow it.

But you know how it read to me? As a totally inept guy writing a typical female character in this situation.

[moonlightnrain.livejournal.com]

Ah. Okay. Let me put it this way: I think, for me, I believe that the *child* pushes some deep-set emotional issues for Kara that nothing else would push. Not even Zak's death. So my evidence, which works for me but which might not work for you, is that scene from uh... season one (I think? yeah, back in the day when we were writing silly Kara/Lee fic at one another) where she breaks down talking about her relationship with her mom.

But what would have made this writing as bad as the Apollo weight plot would be if Kara grabbed Kacey in open arms and swung her around when she first spotted her in this episode. *That* would have pissed me off.

[ebonlock.livejournal.com]

I think for me it's pressing a big red button about how male writers tend to think female characters are going to act in a situation. If there's one thing I have learned to expect from Kara over the past couple of seasons it's that she very rarely acts like the typical female character. It's something I relate to deeply and fully, and to have the writers betray that made me want to howl with fury.

[moonlightnrain.livejournal.com]

. It's something I relate to deeply and fully, and to have the writers betray that made me want to howl with fury.

Maybe it's the part of me that's worked hard for two years to lose a stone that's ticked off at the writers. ;) But the one is pure laziness, the extreme form of Deus ex machina and the other is... hmm, can we agree on not very well thought out characterization?