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South Dakota has passed a clearly unconstitutional abortion ban. Presumably a lawsuit will be filed and a federal court will toss the law out, the only question being whether Roberts and Strip Search Sammy will then decide to hear the case.

I've long thought that if Roe goes then the boycotting of states which ban abortion would be a moral imperative. I see no reason to visit states which claim they own the deed to my wife's uterus.


Here's the best part:

Republican Sen. Stan Adelstein of Rapid City had tried to amend the bill to include an exception for abortions for victims of rape. The amendment lost 14-21.

“To require a woman who has been savaged to carry the brutal attack result is a continued savagery unworthy of South Dakota,” he said.

Republican Sen. Lee Schoenbeck of Watertown objected.

Rape should be punished severely, he said, but the amendment is unfair to “some equally innocent souls who have no chance to stand and defend themselves.”


That's right, not only is there no health clause, but now if you're the victim of rape or incest you're doubly fucked as well.

As the Feministe points out:

It offers no exception for the pregnant woman’s health — if giving birth is going to cause massive kidney damage which will likely kill her after childbirth, no exception. If giving birth is going to force doctors to perform a hysterectomy, no exception. If the fetus has such a severe birth defect that it will die before, during or immediately after birth, no exception — the woman will be forced by the state to bring a doomed pregnancy to term, and to go through the dangers of childbirth for a fetus that will never live when she could have had a safer procedure.


And of course the real reason this went through:

The bill, largely drawn from the findings of the recent South Dakota abortion task force, is meant to encourage the U.S. Supreme Court to reconsider the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion in the United States.

And with Roberts and Alito on the Supreme Court I think you can see where this is going. I hope you've enjoyed sole ownership of your uteruses, ladies, because soon they become state property.

Date: 2006-02-23 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caitlin.livejournal.com
you mean "solely state property", right? Given the fact that during this administration, they have already become state property, considering they've got folks around who are anti-birth control/contraceptive too.

C.

Date: 2006-02-23 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eska-rina.livejournal.com
I have said it before, but I'll say it again:

I HAVE NO WORDS. NO WORDS WHATSOEVER.


Stupid politicans, stupid people, stupid anti-choicers, stupid gfsdgfjsd!

Date: 2006-02-23 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
What I'd like to know is, where the hell are the pro-choicers during all this? What the hell has Planned Parenthood been doing? NARAL? NOW? Where are the marches, the outraged voices? Are we going to have to wait until this law starts killing people before there's any protest?

Date: 2006-02-23 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slian-martreb.livejournal.com
I am horrified. Why precisely have we allowed and suffered men dominating the politics in our country for so long? We should have taken over the moment we were given the right to vote.

*snort* men.

You realize that the reason this is being passed is because they can't imagine such a thing on themselves, right? Because if for half a second they could imagine what pregnancy really feels like, with the added bonus of it being caused by rape, there would be no hesitation in allowing women to have abortions.

I just--I really have no coherent words for this.

Date: 2006-02-23 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
What I'd also like to know is what measures the state is planning to take to deal with all these unwanted kids after they're born. Oh, wait, that's right, the pro-lifers don't give a RAT'S ASS what happens to these kids after they cease to be innocent Fetus Americans. The sheer unmitigated hypocrisy of it all makes me want to hit something.

Date: 2006-02-23 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slian-martreb.livejournal.com
Florida would be a classic example of white America not giving a care about kids. And, mind you, one would have to assume that most of those kids WERE wanted by their parents at the time of birth. (Or well, rather that their pregnancies were not forced, anyway.) And the fact of the matter is, that most of Florida's govt would rather see these kids on the street or in homes or govt institutions where they'll be ignored and/or lost than be adopted by gay couples.

But that's another rant.

The question then is, what is the govt going to do with these kids that weren't wanted in the first place? The kids who's parents weren't prepared to have them, or were forced to? If a fifteen year old girl gets raped and impregenated, how can you tell her that she must, by law, carry the baby the term?

I mean, really. I would be curious to see what these guys would say if it was THEIR wife or daughters being raped.

Date: 2006-02-23 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
Ah but see the people making these laws have enough money to circumvent them and send their wives and daughters out of state to take care of their "little problems". And yes I was ranting to a friend yesterday about these fuckwits being the same ones who wanted to ban homosexual couples from adopting. So more kids who need homes, fewer people adopting, that sounds like a winning combination to me.

Date: 2006-02-23 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slian-martreb.livejournal.com
There's a reason I think women need to be ruling the country and the world. (Have you read the Black Jewels Trilogy by Anne Bishop? You MUST. It's REQUIRED.) Women are more understanding, more nurturing and if the decision was between having a child in no home or a gay home, more women would allow for gay adoption.

The US lost her credibility when Bush became president and used the word 'embetterment' in a State of the Union address.

Date: 2006-02-24 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
You know I haven't read the Black Jewels trilogy, but I have to admit I'm intrigued. I'll look 'em up the next time I swing by the library.

Date: 2006-02-24 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slian-martreb.livejournal.com
I ought to warn you: The Black Jewels Trilogy is essentially based on two questions: what if a work of fantasy was based on the Dark Side of Magic and what if women ruled and the men served to protect (because the women are too strong for their own good. Sort of.) It's beautiful, seductive, disturbing, sensual and one of the three main character's name is Lucivar and he has wings.

*melts*

Anyway. It's an absolutely spectacular work of fantasy; I must have read through the entire thing two times in the last four months and it is NOT a small trilogy.

In either case, after you read it, tell me who your favorite character is: Daemon, Saeten, or Lucviar. Am perversely curious.

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