El Gilead

Apr. 10th, 2006 12:55 pm
ebonlock: (women's rights)
This piece on El Salvador's militant pro-life laws is just horrifying:

"El Salvador, however, has not only a total ban on abortion but also an active law-enforcement apparatus — the police, investigators, medical spies, forensic vagina inspectors and a special division of the prosecutor's office responsible for Crimes Against Minors and Women, a unit charged with capturing, trying and incarcerating an unusual kind of criminal.
[...]
...then the uterus is sent to the Forensic Institute, where the government's doctors analyze it and retain custody of her uterus as evidence against her."


The logical end to the pro-life perspective for all the world to see. The sad thing is there are far too many folks in this country who are probably applauding this article.
ebonlock: (Colbert Report)
All your uteruses belong to us:

Today the United States Senate is considering a bill that would have a serious and damaging impact on health coverage for women across the United States. The Health Insurance Marketplace Modernization and Affordability Act (HIMMAA), introduced by Sen. Mike Enzi (R-WY) would allow insurance companies to ignore nearly all state laws that require insurance coverage for certain treatments or conditions, such as laws that require them to include contraceptives in their prescription plans.

[...]

For years, many insurance plans covered prescription drugs, but refused to cover birth control pills and other prescription contraceptives for women. In the past decade lawmakers in 23 states have remedied this inequity and enacted contraceptive coverage laws. Under HIMMAA women will lose contraceptive-equity protections currently guaranteed by state law.


Ok, a little TMI here, apologies to the easily squicked. I take birth control pills. Is it because I'm a flaming slut whoring her way through the male population of the Bay Area? No, though you'll have to take my word on that. Why do I take them? Well see I've got this little problem, if I take them everything's fine and my body works like it should. If I don't I tend to start bleeding every two weeks and then become anemic. And you know what? I'm not the only woman with this problem.

So if this bill were to pass my insurance company and that of many other women too, could well decide that as the meds I'm taking are just contraceptives that they don't need to cover them any longer. Me and a whole helluva lot of other women would be seriously screwed...and not in a fun way either.

Here's your multiple choice question for today:

Was the Health Insurance Marketplace Modernization and Affordability Act (HIMMAA) created to...

1) Screw consumers and rake in even bigger bucks for the insurance companies

2) Clamp down even further on female sexuality

3) All of the above!

Digby says 3:

They deliver for their primary masters, the insurance companies by "streamlining" the state laws that require the companies to cover certain health needs. This mandated coverage is often aimed at women's reproductive health. Insurance companies prefer not to be required to cover anything they can get away with not covering --- and the theocrats in the republican party want to make birth control more difficult to obtain if not against the law all together. This is one of those times when the interests of the big money boys and the bedroom police can work comfortably together.
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But more than anything else we must accept the fact that these people are serious. They want to outlaw abortion and they want to curtail people's access to birth control. They aren't lying. And as they've shown with gun rights, they are in it for the long haul. We must be just a stubborn as they are and seek to wear them down rather than let them wear us down.

This is not an issue for tweaking. Let's tweak on the Ten Commandments or public funds for parochial schools or something else if it is necessary to adjust for this family values crap in order to win elections. State mandated forced childbirth and denial of access to birth control cannot be negotiated or finessed. This one's going to have to be fought out head to head, day to day to a final reckoning. That's what they are going to do and if we don't recognise that and act accordingly, we will lose.
ebonlock: (Frak me)
Digby's got an excellent piece up on the abortion debate from an angle all too often overlooked:

This updates the post below about whether women should be held legally liable for having an illegal abortion. Apparently this video made the rounds some months ago (and I missed it) in which anti-abortion protesters are asked that very question. Turns out most of them haven't ever thought about it before.

That is as I suspected. It's time we make them think about it. Most anti-abortion legislation makes no sense morally and these people need to be led through the various steps that will show them this. The cognitive dissonence was apparent on these people's faces. It's a question that everyone from the family pro-choice supporter to professiohnal interviewers should always ask.

Picture if you will a poll in which Americans are asked if women should be jailed for murdering their unborn child with an illegal abortion. What do you think they would say? Considering the fact that even the anti-abortion picketers in that video don't know what to say, I think it's fair to assume that it would be rejected by more than 90 percent of the population.

That's because it's clear that there is almost nobody who believes that abortion is murder in the legal sense of the word. How can there be a law against "murder" where the main perpetrator is not punished? How can it be murder if these people don't believe that the person who planned it, hired someone to do and paid for it is not legally culpable?

The looks on these womens' faces in that video were amazing: confusion, frustration, pain. Their position is untenable and they know it.
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So I think we need to have this discussion. Let's debate it out in the open and "air both sides" because from where I sit it's the "pro-lifers" who haven't thought this thing through. Nobody says they can't agitate against abortion and stand out there with their sickening pictures and try to dissuade women from doing it. I will defend their right to argue against abortion forever. But when they use the law to enforce their moral worldview they need to recognize that they can't have it both ways. If fetuses are human and have the same rights as the women in whom they live, then a woman who has an abortion must logically be subject to the full force of the law. It would be a premeditated act of murder no different than if she hired a hit man to kill her five year old. The law will eventually be able to make no logical moral distinction. Is everybody ready for that?


Mathwiz comments:

This gets to the heart of the issue, even if the "pro-life" crowd won't admit it: when does a woman consent to letting her unborn embryo/fetus use her body for room and board?

There are a few extremists who actually believe the "abortion is murder" rhetoric (Sen. Coburn, R-OK, for instance), but most "pro-lifers" implicitly believe a woman consents to pregnancy whenever she has voluntary sex, and that consent, once given, is irrevocable. This is why they usually support exceptions for rape and incest, and why they seek less severe punishments than for murder. But it's not a very logical position, especially when talking about minors who've been denied comprehensive sex ed. How can such a girl possibly give fully informed legal consent to bear a child?

The pro-choice community generally believes consent is revocable up to some reasonable point in the pregnancy (usually fetal viability, a la Roe), and they realize that, especially in a world of "abstinence only" sex ed, women and girls may not fully understand the risks of sex. There are a ton of (ahem) misconceptions about sex and pregnancy, and frankly, the right wing is trying their level best to be as unhelpful as humanly possible when it comes to dispelling those misconceptions.

Again we get back to the pregnancy as punishment concept behind most of the pro-life perspective. It isn't about the fetus when it comes right down to it, if it were there'd be no issue with cases of rape and incest. I mean the fetus would still be a "person" with full rights, regardless of how it was conceived. But even setting that aside, the sheer illogic of how these kinds of laws could possibly be enforced if taken to their realitic conclusion is mind boggling. Do we investigate each miscarriage to make certain it was from natural causes? And if it wasn't, is the woman legally culpable?

The fact that many pro-lifers have never even considered the logical conclusion to their "Abortion = Murder" message surprises me depressingly little, however.
ebonlock: (Flying Spaghetti Monster)
I have to say I found Lance Mannion's latest post on the abortion debate both interesting and decidedly frustrating. I was trying to put my own ideas together to respond, but then Rana in the comments said it far better than I ever could:

I hate to say it, but for me the personhood of the fetus is beside the point. Presumably one of the rights of human beings is the right to control their own bodies. This is why we do not legally require people with O-negative blood to donate blood, why we do not legally require parents to donate kidneys to their children, why we do not legally require children to donate marrow to their parents, why we do not legally require anyone to give up any of their body in order to support someone else's.

It is true that a fetus, especially one that is more pre-term than one that is nearly ready to be born, lacks the ability to live without the biological contribution of the woman in whose womb it exists. So why should its need for a woman's uterus trump the woman's right to control her own body, given that a need of this kind carries no legal compulsion for any other category of person?

Now, there may be moral or ethical obligations that devolve upon the mother -- or the blood donor, or the organ donor, et al. -- in a situation like this, but those are the purview of churches and individuals, not government. I especially do not approve of the legal imposition of the moral code of a belief system I find to be vicious, rigid, and anti-woman, as if my own moral code was not good enough.

I personally would be reluctant to have an abortion if I became pregnant, because I _do_ believe in that fetuses are more than just clusters of cells, but that decision to give over my body and health to the support of another human being should be MINE. Not my partner's, not the fetus's, and certainly not that of judgemental, self-righteous people who know nothing about me or my life and couldn't care less about what happens to me during the pregnancy or either me or the child after birth.

So whether the fetus is a pre-baby or a clump of parasitic cells is not decisve to me. Either one believes that women have the same right as men, children, and fetuses to control their own bodies, in which case one must reject restrictions on abortion of any kind, or one is choosing to see women as legally inferior to the rest of humanity.

We may wish that adult female human beings behave in selfless ways, but I find it morally repugnant to single them out for legal coercion when they choose to exercise the same rights to bodily integrity that the rest of humanity can exercise unimpeded.

Yeah, that about sums it up for me.
ebonlock: (Jesus Pony)
via Atrios:

South Dakota has passed a clearly unconstitutional abortion ban. Presumably a lawsuit will be filed and a federal court will toss the law out, the only question being whether Roberts and Strip Search Sammy will then decide to hear the case.

I've long thought that if Roe goes then the boycotting of states which ban abortion would be a moral imperative. I see no reason to visit states which claim they own the deed to my wife's uterus.


Here's the best part:

Republican Sen. Stan Adelstein of Rapid City had tried to amend the bill to include an exception for abortions for victims of rape. The amendment lost 14-21.

“To require a woman who has been savaged to carry the brutal attack result is a continued savagery unworthy of South Dakota,” he said.

Republican Sen. Lee Schoenbeck of Watertown objected.

Rape should be punished severely, he said, but the amendment is unfair to “some equally innocent souls who have no chance to stand and defend themselves.”


That's right, not only is there no health clause, but now if you're the victim of rape or incest you're doubly fucked as well.

As the Feministe points out:

It offers no exception for the pregnant woman’s health — if giving birth is going to cause massive kidney damage which will likely kill her after childbirth, no exception. If giving birth is going to force doctors to perform a hysterectomy, no exception. If the fetus has such a severe birth defect that it will die before, during or immediately after birth, no exception — the woman will be forced by the state to bring a doomed pregnancy to term, and to go through the dangers of childbirth for a fetus that will never live when she could have had a safer procedure.


And of course the real reason this went through:

The bill, largely drawn from the findings of the recent South Dakota abortion task force, is meant to encourage the U.S. Supreme Court to reconsider the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion in the United States.

And with Roberts and Alito on the Supreme Court I think you can see where this is going. I hope you've enjoyed sole ownership of your uteruses, ladies, because soon they become state property.

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