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Dear god in heaven, today's Sadly,No! Loadpants smackdown is entirely devoted to the Doughy One's thesis that Nazi = gay. No, seriously:

Nazi attitudes toward homosexuality are a source of confusion. While it is true that some homosexuals were sent to concentration camps it is also the case that the early Nazi Party and the constellation of Pan-German organizations in its orbit were rife with homosexuals.

There's more, so fucking much more, but this is just the icing on the shit cake:

Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams write in The Pink Swastika that “the National Socialist revolution and the Nazi party were animated and dominated by militaristic homosexuals, pederasts, pornographers, and sadomasochists.”


Rich in comments responds:
Wow. If you could get “closeted” in there, this would be a dead-on description of the American Conservative Movement.


And Der Rocketführer comments:

Scott Lively! There’s a wicked reliable source!


In case you don't know who he is:
The Southern Poverty Law Center calls Lively "the chief international envoy" for a Latvia-based anti-gay group called Watchmen on the Walls, which appears to be linked to the gay-bashing death of Satender Singh in Sacramento in July.
[...]
The Watchmen movement's strategy for combating the "disease" of homosexuality calls for aggressive confrontation. "We church leaders need to stop being such, for lack of a better word, sissies when it comes to social and political issues," Lively argues in a widely-circulated tract called Masculine Christianity. "For every motherly, feminine ministry of the church such as a Crisis Pregnancy Center or ex-gay support group we need a battle-hardened, take-it-to-the-enemy masculine ministry like [the anti-abortion group] Operation Rescue."

...When he personally confronts the enemy, Lively practices what he preaches when it comes to "battle-hardened" tactics. He recently was ordered by a civil court judge to pay $20,000 to lesbian photojournalist Catherine Stauffer for dragging her by the hair through the halls of a Portland church in 1991.

You can read more here and here for starters.

So, question, Jonah Goldberg, completely and soullessly evil, or slightly less synaptic activity than your average sea sponge? Discuss.

Date: 2007-12-21 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlightnrain.livejournal.com
I have very little doubt that there was some butt-sticking going on in the Nazi party. But I wouldn't call those men doing it homosexual any more than I would call a male dog who mounts another homosexual.

And in answer to your question: Jonah Goldberg is clearly closeted.

Date: 2007-12-21 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyranocyrano.livejournal.com
we need a battle-hardened, take-it-to-the-enemy masculine ministry like Operation Rescue.

I was just thinking, "If only the Christian church were less namby pamby, all 'peace and love to all' and 'do unto others' and womanified, I'd be far more likely to take up the Cross again. Especially if it had a bayonet tip that I could use to spear heathens right through the eye. Maybe with a steel crossbar that I could use as a bludgeoning weapon, to beat the enemies of God into a sticky red paste.

Yeah. Thank you, Scott Lively, for bringing me back into the fold. You prick.

Date: 2007-12-21 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
And yet they see absolutely no resemblance between themselves and the Taliban. You'd think that at least their shared mindset on true masculinity and the evils of homosexuality would make them more BFF than sworn enemies.

Date: 2007-12-22 07:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellid.livejournal.com
The one speck of truth in this is that several early Nazis, most notably SA leader Ernst Rohm, were gay. Almost all of them were purged during the so-called Night of Long Knives in 1934.

Beyond that, it's utter bullshit.

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