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How do you spell self loathing? M-A-R-Y-G-R-A-B-A-R, apparently:

After watching The View and following the inane statements made on the program, I’ve come to the conclusion that it really is true what Aristotle, Saint Paul, and John Milton said: Women, without male guidance, are illogical, frivolous, and incapable of making any decisions beyond what to make for dinner.

Not sure what I can add to that except, wow...Although one wonders that the men over at Townhall let her leave the kitchen long enough to write the piece. I mean those sandwiches don't make themselves.
via TBogg

And Billmon notes that Rich Lowry has finally joined the other rats and leapt from the sinking ship that is the Grand Iraq Experiment:

In their distrust of the mainstream media, their defensiveness over President Bush and the war, and their understandable urge to buck up the nation’s will, many conservatives lost touch with reality on Iraq. They thought that they were contributing to our success, but they were only helping to forestall a cold look at conditions there and the change in strategy and tactics that would be dictated by it.

National Review editor Rich Lowry
When the Media’s Right
December 19, 2006


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It is time to say it unequivocally: We are winning in Iraq . . . Even as there has been a steady diet of bad news about Iraq in the media over the last year, even as some hawks have bailed on the war in despair, even as Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld has become everyone's whipping boy, the U.S. military has been regaining the strategic upper hand.

National Review editor Rich Lowry
What Went Right
April 27, 2005


The times, they are a-changin', for sure. But it's nice to see that even the most bat-shit of the wingnut clan can actually take note of and respond rationally to reality from time to time. It almost gives me a little hope for the future of our country again.

Date: 2006-12-21 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eska-rina.livejournal.com
...I, what?!

Date: 2006-12-21 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellid.livejournal.com
My response to Miss Grabar:

"If you think women should stay silent because their opinions are worthless and unformed without male guidance, perhaps you should consider setting an example and do likewise?"

Date: 2006-12-22 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kirbyk.livejournal.com
I can understand how someone could come to that opinion from watching the view. However, it'd be like watching Fox News and coming to the conclusion that all men were stupid, angry, right-wing nutjobs with a chip on their shoulder and utterly unfamiliar with rational discourse.

Of course, not everyone is like talk show hosts. I'd go as far as to say that they're not even representative samples of their genders. I wouldn't want to be judged by Bill O'Reilly as a proxy, in any respect.

Date: 2006-12-22 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phillipalden.livejournal.com
As for "The View" thing; I think both men and women are capable of great stupidity in small groups, but I'm reminded that, on the whole, women don't start wars.

As far as Iraq goes, even though I'm not reading listening to the news, or any mass media for the most part, I'm not surprised that things have finally reached the state where even the most dedicated Bush-supporter can ignore the truth that Iraq is.

That being said, it gives me no satisfaction that we've been right about this all along. The awful vagaries of the past six years have caused so much suffering here and abroad there is no joy in gloating or saying, "I told you so."

I think I might be more worried if Iraq (and Afghanistan) were actually going well, because that would vindicate all the damage that's been done to our country by these people. Iraq will hopefully open more eyes to all the stuff that's been ignored, pushed aside, and kept from us. There's just so much damage I have no idea what it will take to undo it all, or how long.

One big hope is that people realize what a disservice our news and media have been to us. The Bush Administration did not do all this without the help of the corporate media, and they have been feeding us toxic information for over 25 years now, (in what I call the current cycle which started with Ronald Reagan in 1979.) It's way past time to hold the NY Times and Fox News accountable for betraying the public trust, (as well as a long list of other players in American media.) These people deserve to go out of business, and be replaced by responsible journalism.

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