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Steve Gilliard posts some snippets from a fascinating article on the downward spiral that is Afghanistan:

"...[T]he continuing air raids across Afghanistan, sometimes on wedding parties or innocent villagers, ...have led to the loss of thousands of civilian lives. In May this year there were an astonishing 750 bombing raids*, according to American Central Command."

"Karzai has repeatedly complained to the Americans about the bombers and the lack of cultural sensitivity of raids on the ground — doors kicked down in the middle of the night, male soldiers entering women’s quarters or taking in dogs which are considered unclean.

"Another bitter complaint is of American convoys driving too fast and not stopping when they run someone down. It was such an incident in Kabul that provoked a six-hour riot last month — yet two weeks later a US truck ran over a child in exactly the same place.

"'How can we go in offering school sets and candy to people when the Americans have just bombed someone’s family or run over their daughter?' asked an exasperated senior ISAF [International Security Assistance Force, under Nato control] officer.
"

[snip]

"Against such a backdrop, it seems hopelessly naive for the British to hope that locals in Helmand will differentiate between them and the Americans. At every meeting I attended, para commanders started off by telling local elders, 'we’re British, not Americans,' an odd comment for such close allies.

"At a shura or traditional meeting in Gereshk, elders complained about soldiers bursting into their women’s quarters.

"'It’s not us, we’ve had endless cultural training about this,' said Major Paul Blair, the local British commander. 'But of course they don’t see the difference.'

"'You don’t even differentiate between Pashtuns and Tajiks, let alone different Pashtun tribes,' replied a local teacher. 'Why should we?'

"Back at the camp after this discussion we found that a convoy of Americans had arrived. They were laughing about running over some goats on the way in. 'Now I’m going to have to make another phone call to the district chief to sort it out,' grumbled Blair."

"It did not have to be this way. Just as the Taliban and Al-Qaeda would never have taken hold if the West had not abandoned Afghanistan after the Russians withdrew in 1989, so we would not be in the mess we are today if London and Washington had focused on Afghan nation-building after 2001 instead of pursuing other foreign adventures."

Date: 2006-07-10 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phillipalden.livejournal.com
But that Persian bad boy, Saddam was in danger of undermining OPEC, and with both Iraq and Iran on full output, it threatened to bring down the price of crude.

Nation building is so Allied WWII Power-ish and there’s not as much money as there is in who controls the natural resources. And what to do now we had the World Bank sell off all Iraq’s assets and we have destabilized their nation? Not to mention the “coalition of the willing” that are leaving us more alone as things digress.

Date: 2006-07-10 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
You know I think my seething rage could be somewhat abated about all of this if the major player could just step forward and admit they'd fucked everything up. To have this constant, "No, everything's fine over there, really." nonsense is just flat out insulting.
BTW, if you haven't seen the latest Frontline titled "The Dark Side" let me know and I'll make you a copy. Scary stuff.

Date: 2006-07-11 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phillipalden.livejournal.com
I saw "The Dark Side" on the web. It pissed me off, much like your repetitions of the "everything's fine" line. The past couple of days in Bahgdad are showing Americans how it's really going.

Saddam was a brutal dictator but he kept the tribes from falling into civil war, and that's another thing we didn't plan for, either.

Frontline episodes are on their web site and you can stream them to watch on your computer. Very cool.

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