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via Newshounds:

Sean Hannity asked Franklin Graham tonight why "on the one hand" some people have risked their lives to help the hurricane victims while "on the other side, we have looting, shooting, rape and mayhem."

Graham answered, "Of course, Sean, this happens in a country when we have taken God out of our schools and God out of our society. We don't have a moral standard and we need to put God back into our schools."

Best comment response ever:

Sarcastro-
As a vertebrate, I'm embarrassed by remarks like that.


And still more:

From WorldNetDaily: There's looting in New Orleans because liberals took the Ten Commandments out of school.

Also from WND: the hurricane struck to prevent homos from having a party.

via Pandagon

Also worth checking out:
"Hurricanes, Divine Retribution and the Right."

Date: 2005-09-02 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
Could you possibly point to a few of these stories on the Left? I, at least, would be curious to see them.

Date: 2005-09-02 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wazsgirl.livejournal.com
First, we have someone saying this is God's punishment for pulling out of the Kyoto treaty (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/afor-they-that-sow-the-_b_6396.html).

Then we have this guy who won't support or help anyone in the hurricane because he hates Bush. The fact that they're human beings doesn't matter. (http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/09/01/170702.php)

Then, there's the guy who says "it's ok not to support these peopel because they're red states and brought it on themselves!!11!1! Oh, wait, NO went blue. I guess it's ok to help them then." (http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001782.htm)

You can try and defend these as "valid points" but it's just as insane and ridiculous as the insane right wing comments. The welfare of ther human beings HAS to transcend politics. Otherwise, what the hell is the point?

Date: 2005-09-02 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
You can try and defend these as "valid points" but it's just as insane and ridiculous as the insane right wing comments. The welfare of ther human beings HAS to transcend politics. Otherwise, what the hell is the point?

Or I could say that they're just as stupid as trying to blame this on a lack of prayer in school, which would be my preference. Just because I identify with the Left doesn't mean I agree with every single person on that side, though I am curious where you found these. Are they blogs you generally read, or were they listed on a particular blog or newssite?

And I would argue that this is still a political discussion. It's nice to think we could transcend the partisanship, but I don't think it's something we can or should remove from the realm of politics.

Date: 2005-09-02 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wazsgirl.livejournal.com
I browse lots of sites on a daily basis, usually depending on my moods.

Right now, partisanship and politics are horridly entwined. Now, it's not as bad as it has been in US history--there haven't been duels on the floor of Congress and we're not in a Civil War--but there are people who are saying "We shouldn't help these people because they didn't vote the way *I* wanted them to". That's not politics. That's ignorant.

And yes--people who say this is because prayer was taken out of school are dumbasses.

Date: 2005-09-02 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
Right now, partisanship and politics are horridly entwined. Now, it's not as bad as it has been in US history--there haven't been duels on the floor of Congress...

Although some wicked little part of me wonders if we did have duels on the floor of Congress, might not our government run a bit more smoothly? :) And I am reminded of Zell Miller challenging some t.v. talking head to a duel during the run up to election 2004..

At any rate, yeah, politics has become some sort of bizarre spectator sport where everyone is on a team and must support that team regardless of what stupid, assinine things they do. It's absurd that it's come to this, not surprising necessarily, but deeply, deeply sad.

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