Epic Fail

Jul. 3rd, 2008 02:52 pm
ebonlock: (Bollocks!)
Fun with logical fallacies via the Washington Post and Chuck Colson:

There Are No Atheists

On a cross-country flight some years ago, we hit severe turbulence. The gentleman in the seat next to me who had been insisting vehemently that he was an atheist shouted out loud, “God help us.”

Yes, even atheists pray because the image of God is implanted in us. Independent studies have showed that we yearn to know God. It’s the way we’re wired. So to be an atheist takes a stubborn refusal to acknowledge that which deep down we all know to be true.

I have, in fact, never met an atheist. When a person professes to be one, I ask him to offer me the proof that God does not exist. I’ve never had anyone successfully respond to that question. Most retreat and say they’re really agnostics. I then ask them if they have examined every religion exhaustively. Their answer is usually no. I explain they cannot be agnostics unless they are sure that God can’t be known.

There are no atheists. There are simply people whose pride overwhelms their innate knowledge.


Now the interactive part of this game comes into play, where you, the reader, get to create your own logical fallacy that holds just as much water as ol' Chuckles'. For example:

"I have, in fact, never met a unicorn denier. When a person professes to be one, I ask him to offer me proof that unicorns do not exist. I've never had anyone successfully respond to that question."


At least the comments section over there is pretty entertaining as 90% of the readers school the Nixonian con on the stupidity and uselessness of attempting to prove a negative. A good number have also chimed in to ask why the WaPo is printing such rubbish, no response from the paper yet.
ebonlock: (Bollocks!)
The Daily Texan posts a piece by one Ryan Haecker whose central thesis is, and I quote:

The androgynous masculinization of the modern woman, through the donning of pants, suits, uncovered shoulders and unveiled hair, has in a sense led to the slow whorification of ladyhood.


No, really, that's his main point. But now it's quiz time, can you spot the historical and logical fallacies in this excerpt:

Dresses are the indelible image of womanhood because of the symbolic nature of pants and dresses. If all fashions are symbolic, dresses in particular symbolize womanhood by more fully embodying the ideal of a true lady, the objective understanding of what men find attractive in the fairer sex: passivity, domesticity, childrearing, coital love, piety and fertility. These defining aspects of womanhood are immutable.


Finished your answer? Ok, on to question two. Can you name at least three historical periods in time during which the following can easily be shown to be complete and utter shite:

The nature of sexual attractiveness in women is objective, immutable and incontrovertible because it is directly related to the constant and unchanging physiology of men and women. What men find attractive in women is fixed because the physiology of humanity has been relatively unchanged. In this way, the ideal form of femininity is also unchangeable and without regard for cultural context or time period.


Please feel free to use examples from literary and art historical sources in your response. Including more than three will lead to extra credit.

Question three, can you find at least one example of a woman in pants that shows this bit to be complete bunkum:

Like all fashions, pants are symbolic of something - in this case masculinity - through their allowance of physical activity. Dresses, the antithesis of pants, symbolize femininity through grace and elegance. Men find elegance in women to be attractive, and dresses are a physical manifestation of femininity. The wearing of pants by women represents the masculinization of the fairer sex, which is not at all attractive.


If you're having difficulty, I suggest referring to TBogg for at least one visual reference.

Final question, does the following make you burst into tears for the future of our nation:

Haecker is a history junior.


That, of course, was a rhetorical question. One of the commenters at the DT responds with, perhaps, the most eloquent takedown of our young scholar I've read:

Has it somehow escaped your notice that if these indeed were immutable defining aspects of women, then you would have nothing to write about, because every woman would be wearing dresses and there would be no feminism? If passivity was a defining, immutable aspect of womanhood, then every woman would be passive. Women are not passive, ergo passivity is not a defining aspect of womanhood, ergo your entire ridiculous thesis falls apart. Enjoying the sight of a woman in a dress is a fine thing, but it's not something you're entitled to, you sexist fop.


But please do click over to the DT to read the other comments as Mr. Haecker proceeds to make an ever larger ass of himself by throwing in the odd pseudo-intellectualism. It truly is a car wreck, but the enjoyable kind. There's little better some days than watching a sexist being so beautifully and skillfully skewered.

This response, though, nearly made me spew Gatorade all over my keyboard:

Richard Whittaker
posted 11/20/07 @ 7:47 PM CST
Thank you for your capitol and splendid treatise, young master Haecker, but I must impose upon you to ask a question. My intended's bustle lifted briefly as she lighted into the hansom cab I had my servant summon upon our exiting from a magic lantern show. In this action, she exposed the lower hem of her petticoats to the eyes of the assembled crowd, my good self included. Does this mean I now must immediately ask her father's hand in marriage, or shun her for her gross immodesty? Also, exactly how thick a rod should I use if she continues her childish prattle about working outside the home? Lawks, sir, she'll be requesting the 'right' to vote and keep her own property next!
ebonlock: (Bob)
Whiz! Go The Goalposts

How much contact did there have to be between al Qaeda and Saddam for the U.S. to be legitimately concerned?

* Although we actually went to war with Iraq because of [mumble mumble], the fact that Saddam didn’t have a relationship with Al Qaeda only enabled the threat that he could have started one.


Qetesh the Abyssinian responds:

I thought your headline was a joke, but no, it’s the actual headline. I read the article, then read some of the comments.

Folks, these people scare the crap out of me. Maybe it’s because a relative of mine died a few days ago, so I’ve been thinking about life and death and things like that. Or maybe it’s because I’m a girly progressive. Or maybe it’s because I’m barking mad. Dunno.

But the fact that these people are seriously espousing what amounts to genocide, based on fear of some possible attack in the future, scares the absolute bejeezus out of me. It doesn’t matter to them whether or not Saddam had any contacts with al Qaeda at all. It doesn’t matter to them whether or not Saddam had any WMDs: hell, he coulda maybe got some, sooner or later, and that’s enough for these folks.

And the blind, stubborn, pig-headed insistence that what they believe will happen, will happen, or indeed is happening, just knocks the wind out of me. They believe firmly that killing a bunch of Iraqis will make the turr’rists sit up and pay attention, and lordy lordy, that’s what they see. They believe that the US has the right, nay, the duty, to go out killing furr’ners, in their own homes no less, and fail completely to entertain the thought that those same furr’ners might not like it.

To say nothing of the absolute, solid gold, all-singing all-dancing, Stupid involved in the idea that the US is threatened by anyone, anywhere. Jesus wept, people, don’t you have the slightest idea of the enormous weapons disparity between the US and the rest of the world? That’s like Mike Tyson being afraid of a 3-year-old.

And, of course, the long-running idiocy of claiming the War Against Teh West, when these idiots (a) have likely never been out of the US; (b) don’t know any furr’ners at all; (c) don’t speak the language and therefore have no idea of translation issues or local non-US news. All that ignorance in one sweaty, cheeto-stained package, yet they claim superior knowledge based on god knows what.

I’ve had it. I’ve had enough of being human (or at least pretending). From now on, I’m from a different species than these bozos. I want nothing to do with this homocidal idiocy.


And RandomObserver adds:

I have yet to team up with Darth Vader and Zombie Hitler, but that only leaves open the dreadful possibility that I might at some point in the future.
ebonlock: (Tinkerbell)
The evidence the RudePundit demands before serious discussions about bombing Iran take place:

If they wanna bomb Iran (a notion that's soooo 1980), then here's the evidence the Rude Pundit wants to see: he wants to see the Mullahs dry-humping nuclear warheads that read, "Hey, infidels, suck on this"; he wants to see a video of motherfuckin' Ahmadinejad actually shoving an IED into a drugged, tied down Dick Cheney's asshole, saying, "We're gonna blow up Dick Cheney's ass, America, if you don't back the fuck up on our nukes," with the President of Iran ordering his guards to fuck Condoleezza Rice's disembodied head. And even then, there should be a referendum in this country on whether or not we actually care if Dick Cheney's ass gets exploded. Hell, they'd probably just give the Vice President a mechanical sphincter and let him keep on lying and sending people to die for him.


Amen.
ebonlock: (Monarch)
Well it would seem that the latest round of "OMFG WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!" is having its desired effect, via Glenn Greenwald:

British holidaymakers staged an unprecedented mutiny - refusing to allow their flight to take off until two men they feared were terrorists were forcibly removed.

The extraordinary scenes happened after some of the 150 passengers on a Malaga-Manchester flight overheard two men of Asian appearance apparently talking Arabic.

Passengers told cabin crew they feared for their safety and demanded police action. Some stormed off the Monarch Airlines Airbus A320 minutes before it was due to leave the Costa del Sol at 3am. Others waiting for Flight ZB 613 in the departure lounge refused to board it.
[...]
The trouble in Malaga flared last Wednesday as two British citizens in their 20s waited in the departure lounge to board the pre-dawn flight and were heard talking what passengers took to be Arabic. Worries spread after a female passenger said she had heard something that alarmed her.

Passengers noticed that, despite the heat, the pair were wearing leather jackets and thick jumpers and were regularly checking their watches.
[...]
A spokesman for the Civil Guard in Malaga said: "These men had aroused suspicion because of their appearance and the fact that they were speaking in a foreign language thought to be an Arabic language, and the pilot was refusing to take off until they were escorted off the plane."
[...]
Patrick Mercer, the Tory Homeland Security spokesman, said last night: "This is a victory for terrorists. These people on the flight have been terrorised into behaving irrationally."

For those unfortunate two men to be victimised because of the colour of their skin is just nonsense.
[...]
Websites used by pilots and cabin crew were yesterday reporting further incidents. In one, two British women with young children on another flight from Spain complained about flying with a bearded Muslim even though he had been security-checked twice before boarding.


More here, including the reaction of the Right which, as you might guess, mostly consists of "Rah! Rah! Go Hate!"

My friends, the terrorists have already won.

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