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S. Dakota House Bans Abortion to Instigate Court Fight:

Lawmakers in South Dakota overwhelmingly approved legislation Thursday that would prohibit almost all abortions in the state. House Bill 1215 passed 47-22, after representatives voted against inserting amendments that would exempt women impregnated as the result of rape or incest. The bill, which now goes to the state Senate, makes an exception if the women’s life is in danger.

Citing controversial conclusions by the South Dakota Task Force to Study Abortion, the bill states that scientific studies and scientific advances show that life begins at conception, and “each human being is totally unique immediately at fertilization.”


Power to the Blastocyst Americans!

The bill further says that in order “to fully protect the rights, interests, and health of the pregnant mother, the rights, interest, and life of her unborn child, and the mother's fundamental natural intrinsic right to a relationship with her child, abortions in South Dakota should be prohibited.”


Did I miss that Amendment to the Constitution?

"What the public doesn't realize is that the building blocks are already in place to re-criminalize abortion if Roe is overturned," Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights in New York, told the LA Times.

Representative Roger Hunt (R-Brandon), the chief sponsor of the South Dakota bill, said the timing is right for the "Women's Health and Human Life Protection Act," in the wake of the new Supreme Court appointments: conservatives John Roberts and Samuel Alito.


Or perhaps more accurately: "The Women Don't Have the Moral and Intellectual Capacity to Decide for Themselves What's Best for Their Health and Blastocyst Protection Act".

Hunt, who has also sponsored legislation banning same-sex marriages, was one of a strong majority of abortion opponents on the 17-member governor-appointed abortion task force. After the group issued a final report to lawmakers last month, the four pro-choice advocates on the committee – including South Dakota State Director for Planned Parenthood Kate Looby – charged that majority members changed its content and tone without their knowledge or approval.


Why I'm shocked, shocked to find fundamentalists trying to influence, if not hijack such reports. And color me stunned that the anti-choice folks also come down firmly on the side of homophobia...

Looby and the other three dissidents on the abortion task force proposed a package of legislation to promote sex education and access to contraception, but lawmakers are one step ahead of thwarting those efforts. Also passed last week in South Dakota was HB 1194, which prohibits distribution of contraceptives to students on public school property, unless it is done by the parent of the student receiving the contraception. After the overwhelming 51-17 vote, that legislation, too, now moves to the state senate.

South Dakota lawmakers are also considering a joint resolution proposing a constitutional amendment that would preclude "any right relating to abortion." If passed, the issue would go before voters in the next general election.

Meanwhile, a ban similar to that passed by the South Dakota House last week was introduced in Kentucky and has 36 co-sponsors; Indiana also saw the introduction of comparable legislation that would prohibit all abortions unless a women’s life is in danger.


And Pandagon posts a great piece entitled "Terribly Tired of the Abortion Debate" that I really recommend you all take a look at:

That is why I’m tired of this debate that isn’t really a debate. It isn’t a debate because a great deal of those involved aren’t in any position to be arguing it. Men, for example men like Tony Abbott, should not be making, shaping or commenting on policy surrounding abortion. They simply don’t have the qualifications, namely the possession of a uterus. That would eliminate 50% of the people that could participate in this debate that isn’t a debate. And, on the same point you may like to contradict me, you may like to say, ‘but, DQ, you’re a man, why are you weighing in on this debate that isn’t a debate?’ Which raises some serious soul-searching in this blogger and leads him to posit the following caveat - an argument in favor of choice is not an argument in favor of abortion. There is no such thing as a pro-abortion lobbyist. There is no group of evil, hairy-necked sub-humans simply getting pregnant in order to kill unborn babies. Abortion is a tough choice that must be made by an individual. It is an act that can be right or wrong for different people at different times and for different reasons. Simply supporting an individuals right to self determination is not a position on an individual’s actions (therefore not really weighing into the debate that isn‘t a debate), however telling women they are unfit to make that decision is a terrible judgement.

Date: 2006-02-17 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missjones.livejournal.com
"The bill further says that in order “to fully protect the rights, interests, and health of the pregnant mother, the rights, interest, and life of her unborn child, and the mother's fundamental natural intrinsic right to a relationship with her child, abortions in South Dakota should be prohibited""

Uhm...if the mother is having an abortion then doesn't it stand to reason that she doesn't want a relationship with the child she's carrying? Duh people.

Date: 2006-02-17 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
Darling, look ye not here for logic...

Date: 2006-02-17 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missjones.livejournal.com
Yes, I suppose that I was living in a bit of a fantasy world looking for things to be logical in government. But I mean really...it's insulting to think that they can make those kind of statements and *not* expect anyone to see how flawed the argument is and to just nod, smile and accept things like this. It's maddening. *And* it's noones business except the woman who is chosing to terminate her pregnancy. Why can't we just let women decide for themselves what is right for them? With stupidity like this made into law the only thing we are going to gain are a bunch of unwanted and possibly abused and/or neglected children. That's the real crime here, not abortion.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Date: 2006-02-17 07:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ebongreen.livejournal.com
Since we're talking abortion, perhaps you'd be ... pleased ... at this article.

Date: 2006-02-17 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
I might have to pick up a copy of that book, I think the author is hitting the nail right on the head when she talks about the real agenda of the "pro-Life" groups. It really does extend much farther than simply abortions, and the fringe is totally setting the agenda at present.

Date: 2006-02-17 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aelfsciene.livejournal.com
At, um, least it's not North Dakota, I note somewhat dubiously, though I'm sure they won't be far behind. -_- I cannot believe they voted down choice in the case of rape or incest, but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. There's a horrible part of me that wishes these male lawmakers could be raped and then carry a nine-month constant reminder of the act around with them. I swear, were I an all-powerful god, I'd turn things over for a year, make men carry the babies, and then see what kind of protection choice gets.

On a brighter note, I'm (finally!) listening to the FotR complete recordings, and the "happy Hobbit dance music" just came on. ^_^ It's actually quite extensive, far more than we hear showcased in the film.

Date: 2006-02-17 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
On a brighter note, I'm (finally!) listening to the FotR complete recordings, and the "happy Hobbit dance music" just came on. ^_^ It's actually quite extensive, far more than we hear showcased in the film.

You realize I must have a copy of this, right? BTW, are you able to bring up your scanner this weekend as well?

Date: 2006-02-17 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aelfsciene.livejournal.com
Would you like all the discs, or just a "good parts" version? I'm still working my way through the first CD, so dunno yet what hidden treasures lurk on the others. Bilbo and Gandalf sing "The Road Goes Ever On and On," however, and I was delighted to hear "Hey, Ho" at the end of another track just now. Soon: "The Passage of the Elves," which I've been anticipating.

And my scanner's been waiting in my car since I picked it up at Brad & Gretchen's last Sunday, so yup, it's all yours.

Date: 2006-02-17 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
I suppose I'd like a copy of the whole thing at this point, if you want you can just bring them along and I can burn them up here. It'll give me something to listen to until I can afford to buy the set for myself :)

Date: 2006-02-17 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aelfsciene.livejournal.com
Alrighty. If I get to it today, great, otherwise I'll bring the box up with me and we'll see about doing it tonight or tomorrow. Still got a bunch of chemistry to work through (there's a reason I've been behind on email for so long, in that it sucks up so much time), and haven't yet finished my half of our project, but.

And T and D will be joining us for dinner tomorrow night, I'm delighted to report. ^_^

Date: 2006-02-17 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silkblade.livejournal.com
There's a book in which this happens.

Aliens come to Earth and impregnate those men because they said they would never abort a life (and the aliens promise to take care of them and support them and everything). Some of them take it really well and some .... not so well. It was a really amusing part of the book for me.

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