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Steve M.'s got a great post up about the general public's perception of our two parties:

Then again, Charles Schumer is generally polite and soft-spoken even at his most dogged, whereas President Bush often can barely conceal his mile-wide mean streak -- yet it's Schumer whose character is frequently questioned and Bush who is seen as possessing an unmistakable decency at his core.

Why is this?

Because Republicans have mastered the art of persuading the public that Democrats, individually and collectively, are evil freaks, neurotics with malign intent. The New York Times may catalog failures in the Iraq War on its front page, but Rush Limbaugh and Fox News and the Drudge Report and the New York Post make it personal, snickering and recoiling in mock-revulsion at the unhinged perfidy of twisted yet powerful Democrats (and presumed Democrats) -- compulsive liar Al Gore, power-mad Hillary Clinton, sexual predator Bill Clinton, drunk Ted Kennedy, prissy traitor John Kerry, raving old coot ex-Klansman Robert Byrd, wacko GOP-basher Dan Rather.

This is a cancer on our politics, and it would be best if it disappeared from the scene, but it won't. So Democrats won't have a fighting chance until there's a comparable effort on our side.

Sure, we on the left do a good job of spreading negative impressions of Republicans amongst ourselves. But Republicans reach the middle -- mostly, I think, because they use tools other than snark and ridicule. The right-wing specialty is a fake tone of concern -- Bill O'Reilly is the master of this, Sean Hannity is quite adept at it, and even Rush, between infantile song parodies, regularly goes solemn while sounding the alarum bells about the crimes of Democratic and liberals. This is mixed in with relentless attacks on soft targets (e.g., Ward Churchill) and campaigns based on half-truths (e.g., stories about "the war on Christmas") to paint a picture of a vast, interlinked liberal/left/Democratic conspiracy of dangerous weirdos preventing the triumph of decency and of common sense.

It all plays in Peoria.

We might have won this thing if we had built a multi-tiered, self-referential advocacy/attack media that could persuade Middle America that Samuel Alito is an evil freak and so, for that matter, is the oleaginous Lindsay Graham; until we build it, we're going to get beaten over and over again. I'm not saying I necessarily want to live in a country in which we send as much poison into the political atmosphere as the Right. I'm just saying that may be the only way to prevent Republican rule without end.


Wish I could argue with this, but he's right. My question is, do we have to abandon our innate decency in order to wrest government from the hands of the GOP, and if not, do we content ourselves with being under their rule for the remainder of our natural lives? Is there a third option? Because right now relying on the American public to wake up and see what evil fucks are running the country just doesn't seem too realistic to me.

Date: 2006-01-13 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mallen.livejournal.com
My question is, do we have to abandon our innate decency in order to wrest government from the hands of the GOP, and if not, do we content ourselves with being under their rule for the remainder of our natural lives? Is there a third option? Because right now relying on the American public to wake up and see what evil fucks are running the country just doesn't seem too realistic to me.

If you think your opposition are "evil fucks" then you've already lost the middle ground.

Frankly, I think the Bush Administration should get these Alito hearings to go on for another week. The GOP could really use the boost.

Date: 2006-01-13 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
If you think your opposition are "evil fucks" then you've already lost the middle ground.

What middle ground was that, precisely? I mean was it the one where all liberals who speak out against the war are labeled traitors or terrorist lovers? That middle ground? Of course according to most wingnuts the middle ground was lost to my side long, long ago.

I am so sick to death of the wingers being able to spew venom 24/7, but let a liberal get angry enough to refer to people as "evil fucks" and uh-oh, we've lost the middle ground. Can't have rational discourse with those crazy wackos. Time put Ann Coulter on the cover of their damn magazine, a woman who makes her living calling for people like me to be put to death, but we've lost the middle ground.

Allow me to say with great sincerity, and in a truly heartfelt way, fuck the middle ground.

Date: 2006-01-13 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mallen.livejournal.com
I'm sorry I mistakenly thought you wanted to discuss how the Democrats can convince people in the ideological middle not to vote for Republicans.

Date: 2006-01-13 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
Let me ask you this, let's take a look at the GOP for the past, oh 5+ years. Have they spent their time addressing this supposed middle ground of American politics? No, they've become increasingly more fringe-driven. Who do they listen to now? The fundamentalists, the neo-cons, the very same people who, 10 years ago, would've been laughed out of any sane political discourse.

Now, the next question is, have they won? Why yes, yes they have. So what I was asking is this, do we follow suit? I mean is that the winning strategy? Run on hate and fear and Americans will fall into line. If not what is the alternative?

Even we namby-pamby tree hugging liberals occasionally get pissed off enough to vent, and in this case it was me referring to the Bush administration as "evil fucks". I'm terribly sorry if that offends your sensibilities, but I don't think it makes me incapable of rational discourse.

Of course, you could just "glibly dismiss" me that way...

Date: 2006-01-13 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
Frankly, I think the Bush Administration should get these Alito hearings to go on for another week. The GOP could really use the boost.

You mean like Alito's wife fleeing the chamber in tears after Graham used the word "bigot", then the GOP spin machine tried to blame it all on those nasty Dems? Jesus tapdancing Christ, do your really approve of this shit? I mean can't you step back from the "Rah-rah, my side's winning!" nonsense long enough to see that our government's been turned into the equivalent of a goddamn soap opera?

A lifetime appointment to the highest judiciary body in the land is being treated with all the seriousness of a fucking football game.

Date: 2006-01-13 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mallen.livejournal.com
I can't especially take comfort that "my side is winning" in the sense that this is a zero-sum game, because I don't think that politics needs to be.

All I meant was that the Democrats have done a terrible, terrible, awful job of making the case to most people that Alito should not be confirmed.

But what they have done quite well is solidify the appearance that they are mean and nasty and don't really have much to say beyond listening to themselves talk and talk and talk.

It's kind of like watching a political train wreck, listening to people like Biden and Kennedy. That's the face of the Democrats this week and that's good for the Republicans.

Date: 2006-01-13 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com
All I meant was that the Democrats have done a terrible, terrible, awful job of making the case to most people that Alito should not be confirmed.

Dude I am not arguing with you on that, if you look back at my previous posts this week you'll note I'm saying much the same thing.

But what they have done quite well is solidify the appearance that they are mean and nasty and don't really have much to say beyond listening to themselves talk and talk and talk.


Uh, this is where we disagree fundamentally. They haven't done a damn thing to appear mean and nasty, though the GOP has certainly tried (and succeeded) to portray them that way. Drudge blames the Dems because Alito's wife runs out in tears even though it's a Republican who sends her off on her thoroughly staged dash. And doesn't every single news organization pick up the talking point. Ooh, nasty, mean Dems!

Jesus Christ, if there's one thing the Dems haven't been it's nearly nasty enough. Alito's a political weasel, he has to be given tough questions he can't scurry away from. Gods this almost makes me think back fondly on Bork, at least he was an idealogue who answered questions honestly (if batshit insanely).

This is a man whose decisions may well impact the rest of my life, he should be answering hard questions. He should be made to sweat. The Dems should be pulling out all the big guns. Instead they sit there limply, occasionally flinging something resembling a real question his way but offering no real follow up. Using the camera time to try to get some kind of message out to the public and letting the GOP write all the press for them.

That, sir, is pathetic.

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