"No, don't hurt Slave I!"
Jun. 10th, 2004 08:13 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ebonlockThat was for Aelf, she knows why. :)
Um, uneventful day and pretty uneventful night as well. I did some crafting rather than packing, for which I'm sure I'll pay this weekend, but what the hell. I'm still over a month away from moving I don't have to kill myself getting ready for it quite yet.
Did get to chat with![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
elo_sf briefly which was ever so nice. It's kind of sweet when people worry about you, even when it's not necessary.
Also managed to stumble upon a stash of recommended and damned fine (so far) HP fanfic. This latest film has actually inspired me to do some real reading in the genre at long last.
And now my final (I hope) rant on "Firefly". I know that the vast majority of people who read my journal really enjoyed the show. Really, I do know this, and I respect your opinions, I really do. So this disclaimer should serve as a warning for you to just skip clicking the cut link and reading me tearing into something you enjoy. Remember, no clicky.
So the only folks reading this should be the ones who either ignored my warning or find my rants at least mildly entertaining. 'Cause everybody else is gone right? Especially those who seem to consider the show the scifi equivalent of the Second Coming.
Last chance to turn back.
Right. So we go through "Our Mrs. Reynolds" last night and both agreed that while it was quite, quite bad it wasn't in the same category as "Safe" so we didn't feel cheated out of about 50 minutes of our lives. Fair enough. Space Vixen was painfully obvious but could've been the bad girl heroine of a Harlequinn romance novel, she sure as hell sounded like one most of the time. And how is it that this crew always manages to track down somebody planetside if they really want to with no explanation as to how they did it. My money is one magic plot fairies left over from the old Voyager series.
On the plus side the episode did assure me that at some point the Amish get over their technophobia enough to engage in space travel. There will be hand made quilts and fabulous baked goods in the future, hooray!
This episode also reminded me that given the opportunity these folks turn on their own with a kind of mean spiritedness. I know it's supposed to be snarky and funny, and on shows where they give the characters time to actually develop relationships it can be. It also helps when it's written with a bit of subtlety and charm (see Buffy/Cupid/DS9).
Moving on, we saw the Jayne is a folk hero one that was even less enjoyable simply because it led to Aelf and I doing this the entire time:
Aelf: "Hey, if Jayne's in trouble on this world why are they taking him into town rather than Zoe?"
Me: "Wacky hijinks?"
Me: "So they're taking their pilot...the only guy we've ever seen fly this ship...off the ship to go into town to do...what?"
Aelf: "Make snarky comments?"
Me: "My head hurts."
This episode displayed all the writing acumen of your average third grade school play. It also, sadly, assured me that folks singers too survive in the future and travel into space. :(
Although this one gets points for the use of "idgit", which I have been waiting to mark off my list of charming pseudo-Western dialog by the skankiest plot contrivance yet introduced. I took to referring to him in my mind as Yosemite Black (the bastard son of Sirius and Sam). If he'd managed a "what in tarnashun?" I would've been over the moon.
After that we managed "Out of Gas" the obligatory "so just how did all these wacky characters end up together anyway?" episode. Kind of liked shirtless surfer dude engineer guy until he started having sex in the engine room. It was at that point that I pulled a Trelawney and predicted Kaylee's addition to the crew, almost down to the dialog. Aelf's jaw dropped during the reveal a few seconds later and I had to leave the room for a few minutes to get over the idea of Kaylee having sex. Just..eew.
Aelf and I then made a command decision and skipped ahead to the final episode. Yeah, I know, we should've stuck it out like in the deal, but to hell with that. Surely this episode would be THE ONE. You know, the one that convinced us that this show had something, anything, to offer.
So Walking Plot Point (er, River) does weird shit and gets my hopes up when she starts waving around a gun. Sadly, she shoots nobody. Just one right between the eyes of the pseudo-priest guy (damn we just couldn't come up with a sufficiently awful nickname for him) could've redeemed the entire show for me. Ah well, we then get introduced to the Evil Bounty Hunter whom I dubbed Boba Fett (ah, now you get the subject quote). If he'd been a bit less talkative and had a pair of jet packs... Anyway, he bitch slaps the crew around and has a chance to redeem himself when he takes the Doc hostage (and as he's the only one in the universe who hasn't yet, it's so definitely his turn). I sat there going, "Do the 'Have you ever been raped?' bit on him, oh please, oh please!" No dice, apparently he only uses that one on Super Victim Kaylee (tm). Luckily I had no respect for her character to begin with so I had none to lose in this episode.
Of course everything turns out just fine for everybody but the Evil Bounty Hunter who floats off into space without a ship desperately wishing that he had bought the body armor with the jet packs after all.
We then backtracked and watched bits of the Nisska returns episode as it looked like Wash ended up damseling in distress and I'm always up for a good torture scene. Indeed this episode had a couple of redeeming qualities, some actual interpersonal character issues to deal with (Wash/Zoe/Mal) and Jayne's reaction to Innara in some hot girl on girl action. Most of that was canceled out by Kaylee's cringing and Plot Girl coming to the rescue in yet another absurd and pointless manner.
And then I said, "Enough's enough" and happily went to bed, secure in the knowledge that my first instincts on the series had been the right ones. Some schlocky sci-fi I can get into, some I cannot, this show goes in the latter category. Think I'll watch some DS9 special features to clean my brain out.
And that's just about all I have to say on the subject.
Still here? Well if so and you're interested in seeing the Chronicles of Riddick on Saturday it sounds likejakejr, Aelf and I will be partaking up in Union City so if you'd like details lemme know.
Peace out.
Um, uneventful day and pretty uneventful night as well. I did some crafting rather than packing, for which I'm sure I'll pay this weekend, but what the hell. I'm still over a month away from moving I don't have to kill myself getting ready for it quite yet.
Did get to chat with
elo_sf briefly which was ever so nice. It's kind of sweet when people worry about you, even when it's not necessary. Also managed to stumble upon a stash of recommended and damned fine (so far) HP fanfic. This latest film has actually inspired me to do some real reading in the genre at long last.
And now my final (I hope) rant on "Firefly". I know that the vast majority of people who read my journal really enjoyed the show. Really, I do know this, and I respect your opinions, I really do. So this disclaimer should serve as a warning for you to just skip clicking the cut link and reading me tearing into something you enjoy. Remember, no clicky.
So the only folks reading this should be the ones who either ignored my warning or find my rants at least mildly entertaining. 'Cause everybody else is gone right? Especially those who seem to consider the show the scifi equivalent of the Second Coming.
Last chance to turn back.
Right. So we go through "Our Mrs. Reynolds" last night and both agreed that while it was quite, quite bad it wasn't in the same category as "Safe" so we didn't feel cheated out of about 50 minutes of our lives. Fair enough. Space Vixen was painfully obvious but could've been the bad girl heroine of a Harlequinn romance novel, she sure as hell sounded like one most of the time. And how is it that this crew always manages to track down somebody planetside if they really want to with no explanation as to how they did it. My money is one magic plot fairies left over from the old Voyager series.
On the plus side the episode did assure me that at some point the Amish get over their technophobia enough to engage in space travel. There will be hand made quilts and fabulous baked goods in the future, hooray!
This episode also reminded me that given the opportunity these folks turn on their own with a kind of mean spiritedness. I know it's supposed to be snarky and funny, and on shows where they give the characters time to actually develop relationships it can be. It also helps when it's written with a bit of subtlety and charm (see Buffy/Cupid/DS9).
Moving on, we saw the Jayne is a folk hero one that was even less enjoyable simply because it led to Aelf and I doing this the entire time:
Aelf: "Hey, if Jayne's in trouble on this world why are they taking him into town rather than Zoe?"
Me: "Wacky hijinks?"
Me: "So they're taking their pilot...the only guy we've ever seen fly this ship...off the ship to go into town to do...what?"
Aelf: "Make snarky comments?"
Me: "My head hurts."
This episode displayed all the writing acumen of your average third grade school play. It also, sadly, assured me that folks singers too survive in the future and travel into space. :(
Although this one gets points for the use of "idgit", which I have been waiting to mark off my list of charming pseudo-Western dialog by the skankiest plot contrivance yet introduced. I took to referring to him in my mind as Yosemite Black (the bastard son of Sirius and Sam). If he'd managed a "what in tarnashun?" I would've been over the moon.
After that we managed "Out of Gas" the obligatory "so just how did all these wacky characters end up together anyway?" episode. Kind of liked shirtless surfer dude engineer guy until he started having sex in the engine room. It was at that point that I pulled a Trelawney and predicted Kaylee's addition to the crew, almost down to the dialog. Aelf's jaw dropped during the reveal a few seconds later and I had to leave the room for a few minutes to get over the idea of Kaylee having sex. Just..eew.
Aelf and I then made a command decision and skipped ahead to the final episode. Yeah, I know, we should've stuck it out like in the deal, but to hell with that. Surely this episode would be THE ONE. You know, the one that convinced us that this show had something, anything, to offer.
So Walking Plot Point (er, River) does weird shit and gets my hopes up when she starts waving around a gun. Sadly, she shoots nobody. Just one right between the eyes of the pseudo-priest guy (damn we just couldn't come up with a sufficiently awful nickname for him) could've redeemed the entire show for me. Ah well, we then get introduced to the Evil Bounty Hunter whom I dubbed Boba Fett (ah, now you get the subject quote). If he'd been a bit less talkative and had a pair of jet packs... Anyway, he bitch slaps the crew around and has a chance to redeem himself when he takes the Doc hostage (and as he's the only one in the universe who hasn't yet, it's so definitely his turn). I sat there going, "Do the 'Have you ever been raped?' bit on him, oh please, oh please!" No dice, apparently he only uses that one on Super Victim Kaylee (tm). Luckily I had no respect for her character to begin with so I had none to lose in this episode.
Of course everything turns out just fine for everybody but the Evil Bounty Hunter who floats off into space without a ship desperately wishing that he had bought the body armor with the jet packs after all.
We then backtracked and watched bits of the Nisska returns episode as it looked like Wash ended up damseling in distress and I'm always up for a good torture scene. Indeed this episode had a couple of redeeming qualities, some actual interpersonal character issues to deal with (Wash/Zoe/Mal) and Jayne's reaction to Innara in some hot girl on girl action. Most of that was canceled out by Kaylee's cringing and Plot Girl coming to the rescue in yet another absurd and pointless manner.
And then I said, "Enough's enough" and happily went to bed, secure in the knowledge that my first instincts on the series had been the right ones. Some schlocky sci-fi I can get into, some I cannot, this show goes in the latter category. Think I'll watch some DS9 special features to clean my brain out.
And that's just about all I have to say on the subject.
Still here? Well if so and you're interested in seeing the Chronicles of Riddick on Saturday it sounds like
jakejr, Aelf and I will be partaking up in Union City so if you'd like details lemme know.Peace out.
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For Aelf
Date: 2004-06-10 10:29 am (UTC)Slow the Plot Down (http://www.d.umn.edu/~molson2/mst3k/slowplot.html)
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Date: 2004-06-10 03:37 pm (UTC)There is a lot to love about DS9. But there's just no arguing the fact that the first couple of seasons were pretty godawful television, well-worthy of the "Deep Sleep Nine" quip. The characters were shallow and in some cases obnoxious; the dialogue was, in places, excruciating; plot holes you could lose a runabout in; and the less said about some of the storylines, the better.
I can understand not liking Kaylee. What I can't understand is not liking Kaylee and yet approving of Season One Kira Nerys and Julian Bashir. I can understand disparaging River as an Enigmatic Plot Point. What I can't understand is disparaging River as an Enigmatic Plot Point and yet never saying an unkind word about Garak, the Dax symbiont, and the Prophets. I can understand grumbling about the sexual tension between Mal and Inara. What I can't understand is grumbling about the sexual tension between Mal and Inara while giving the Odo/Kira nonsense a pass.
I just don't get it.
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Date: 2004-06-10 04:55 pm (UTC)I think, as with politics, that we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. :)
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Date: 2004-06-13 12:32 am (UTC)Of course, this may have something to due with the fact that I find Confederate nostalgia icky and disgusting even when wrapped up in a scifi bow.