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ebonlock ([personal profile] ebonlock) wrote2004-07-14 10:53 am

Yes, yes, yes!

Senate Scuttles Amendment Banning Same-Sex Marriage

The Senate voted today to block a White House-backed constitutional amendment to bar same-sex marriages, dooming its prospects for approval by Congress this year but ensuring it an emotionally-charged role during campaigns this fall.

The vote was 48-50 against bringing up the amendment -- 12 short of the 60 votes needed to limit debate and 19 short of the two-thirds majority that it would take to amend the Constitution.


A little closer than I would've liked to see, but it still puts a big old smile on my face.

[identity profile] lil-m-moses.livejournal.com 2004-07-14 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
A little closer than I would've liked to see

Well, remember that this was just the first step. Even _if_ they'd gotten a 2/3 majority, it still would have had to do the same in the House, and then would have to be ratified by 75% of the States' legislatures.

[identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com 2004-07-14 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
Well, remember that this was just the first step. Even _if_ they'd gotten a 2/3 majority, it still would have had to do the same in the House, and then would have to be ratified by 75% of the States' legislatures.

I guess I just hoped for some huge landslide of a majority shooting this one down, but I will happily take what I can get.

[identity profile] murdoch.livejournal.com 2004-07-14 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
And McCain made such great comments.

"The constitutional amendment we're debating today strikes me as antithetical in every way to the core philosophy of Republicans," McCain said. "It usurps from the states a fundamental authority they have always possessed and imposes a federal remedy for a problem that most states do not believe confronts them."

McCain also said the amendment "will not be adopted by Congress this year, nor next year, nor any time soon until a substantial majority of Americans are persuaded that such a consequential action is as vitally important and necessary as the proponents feel it is today."

"The founders wisely made certain that the Constitution is difficult to amend and, as a practical political matter, can't be done without overwhelming public approval. And thank God for that," he said.


(from http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/14/samesex.marriage/index.html )

one more McCain

[identity profile] murdoch.livejournal.com 2004-07-14 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
"What evidence do we have that states are incapable of further exercising an authority they have exercised successfully for over 200 years?" McCain said. "We will have to wait a little longer to see if Armageddon has arrived."

Re: one more McCain

[identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com 2004-07-14 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
"What evidence do we have that states are incapable of further exercising an authority they have exercised successfully for over 200 years?" McCain said. "We will have to wait a little longer to see if Armageddon has arrived."

I think it was Santorum who commented that same sex marriage would lead to interspecies (man on dog) marriage, but there was one recently that brought in box turtles. I need to track that down so we can post it up against McCains as a bit of compare and contrast.

Oh, hey, here it is:

"It does not affect your daily life very much if your neighbor marries a box turtle. But that does not mean it is right. . . . Now you must raise your children up in a world where that union of man and box turtle is on the same legal footing as man and wife."
-- Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.), advocating a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage in a speech Thursday to the Heritage Foundation.


Box turtles? As Jon Stewart would say, "Whaaaa-?"

Re: one more McCain

[identity profile] windrose.livejournal.com 2004-07-14 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure the Furries of the world would have something to say about that....

Re: one more McCain

[identity profile] ebonlock.livejournal.com 2004-07-14 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure the Furries of the world would have something to say about that....

If there is a subcategory of that group who are into man on turtle sex I so, so don't want to know about it.